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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://dpccnet.com/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Truth Encounter</title><link>http://dpccnet.com/forums/60.aspx</link><description>Find freedom from the sins which so easily entangle us in daily life. Jesus said that "you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free".</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2007.1 (Build: 20917.1142)</generator><item><title>21b - Relating to Others - Getting the Balance Right</title><link>http://dpccnet.com/forums/thread/170.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:08:04 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">52bfbf00-5165-45eb-9744-b2e938ff4b3f:170</guid><dc:creator>Jeff Fry</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://dpccnet.com/forums/thread/170.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://dpccnet.com/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=60&amp;PostID=170</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p class="MsoTitle" style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;font size="5"&gt;Truth Encounter 22 - Relating to Others: Getting the Balance Right&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman" size="3"&gt;by &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.darwin-park-community-church.org.uk/about_us/index.html"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman" color="#800080" size="3"&gt;Jeff Fry&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman" size="3"&gt; based on Neil Anderson&amp;#39;s &amp;quot;Freedom in Christ Course&amp;quot;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman" size="3"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman" size="3"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:HE;"&gt;Hebrews 12:5 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:HE;"&gt;And you have forgotten that word of encouragement that addresses you as sons: &amp;quot;My son, do not make light of the Lord&amp;#39;s discipline, and do not lose heart when he rebukes you, &lt;sup&gt;6 &lt;/sup&gt;because the Lord disciplines those he loves, and he punishes everyone he accepts as a son.&amp;quot; &lt;sup&gt;7 &lt;/sup&gt;Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as sons. For what son is not disciplined by his father? &lt;sup&gt;8 &lt;/sup&gt;If you are not disciplined (and everyone undergoes discipline), then you are illegitimate children and not true sons. &lt;sup&gt;9 &lt;/sup&gt;Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of our spirits and live! &lt;sup&gt;10 &lt;/sup&gt;Our fathers disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, that we may share in his holiness. &lt;sup&gt;11 &lt;/sup&gt;No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it. &lt;sup&gt;12 &lt;/sup&gt;Therefore, strengthen your feeble arms and weak knees. &lt;sup&gt;13 &lt;/sup&gt;&amp;quot;Make level paths for your feet,&amp;quot; so that the lame may not be disabled, but rather healed. &lt;sup&gt;14 &lt;/sup&gt;Make every effort to live in peace with all men and to be holy; without holiness no one will see the Lord.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:HE;"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:HE;"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:PL;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman" size="3"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:PL;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman" size="3"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:HE;"&gt;NIV &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:HE;"&gt;Ephesians 6:1 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:HE;"&gt;Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. &lt;sup&gt;2 &lt;/sup&gt;&amp;quot;Honor your father and mother&amp;quot;-- which is the first commandment with a promise-- &lt;sup&gt;3 &lt;/sup&gt;&amp;quot;that it may go well with you and that you may enjoy long life on the earth.&amp;quot; &lt;sup&gt;4 &lt;/sup&gt;Fathers, do not exasperate your children; instead, bring them up in the training and instruction of the Lord.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:HE;mso-bidi-font-family:&amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:HE;mso-bidi-font-family:&amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;mso-ansi-language:PL;mso-bidi-language:HE;"&gt;BTP &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;mso-ansi-language:PL;mso-bidi-language:HE;"&gt;Ephesians 6:1 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;mso-ansi-language:PL;mso-bidi-language:HE;"&gt;Dzieci, bądźcie posłuszne w Panu waszym rodzicom, bo to jest sprawiedliwe. &lt;sup&gt;2 &lt;/sup&gt;Czcij ojca twego i matkę - jest to pierwsze przykazanie z obietnicą - &lt;sup&gt;3 &lt;/sup&gt;aby ci było dobrze i abyś był długowieczny na ziemi. &lt;sup&gt;4 &lt;/sup&gt;A &lt;i&gt;wy&lt;/i&gt;, ojcowie, nie pobudzajcie do gniewu waszych dzieci, lecz wychowujcie je stosując karcenie i napominanie Pańskie!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;mso-ansi-language:PL;mso-bidi-language:HE;"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;mso-ansi-language:PL;mso-bidi-language:HE;"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:HE;"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;Thesis: Discipline yes, condemnation &amp;amp; punishment no!&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:HE;"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt; 
&lt;h1 style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt;TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;font size="5"&gt;I.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;font size="5"&gt;Intro&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h1&gt;
&lt;h2 style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt 36pt;TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;A.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Last Week&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;
&lt;h3 style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt 72pt;TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;1.&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;We looked at two Scripture passages:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;
&lt;h4 style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt 108pt;TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;font size="5"&gt;a)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;font size="5"&gt;Galatians 6:1 said that we should restore the brother caught in a sin&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;h4 style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt 108pt;TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;font size="5"&gt;b)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;font size="5"&gt;But Matthew 7:1-2 says that we should not judge.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;h3 style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt 72pt;TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;2.&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;We said that the two extreme reactions we can have to someone caught in sin are:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;
&lt;h4 style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt 108pt;TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;font size="5"&gt;a)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;font size="5"&gt;Ignore the person&amp;#39;s sin &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;h5 style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt 144pt;TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;font size="4"&gt;(1)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;font size="4"&gt;&lt;em&gt;License&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h5&gt;
&lt;h5 style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt 144pt;TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;font size="4"&gt;(2)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;font size="4"&gt;Against Galatians 6:1&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h5&gt;
&lt;h4 style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt 108pt;TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;font size="5"&gt;b)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;font size="5"&gt;Punish/condemn the person &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;h5 style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt 144pt;TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;font size="4"&gt;(1)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;font size="4"&gt;&lt;em&gt;(judgmentalism of Matthew 7:1)&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h5&gt;
&lt;h5 style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt 144pt;TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;font size="4"&gt;(2)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;font size="4"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Against Matthew 7:1&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h5&gt;
&lt;h5 style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt 144pt;TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;font size="4"&gt;(3)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;font size="4"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&amp;quot;the &amp;#39;judge not&amp;#39; of Mt. 7:1 is not a requirement to be blind, but a plea to be generous&amp;quot;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;(&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;Carson&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;, The Expository Bible Commentary, Matthew, p184).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h5&gt;
&lt;h3 style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt 72pt;TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;3.&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;So, what is the right reaction?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;
&lt;h2 style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt 36pt;TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;B.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;This Week&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;
&lt;h3 style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt 72pt;TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;1.&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;WE will examine three passages to see if we can extract the answer to this.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;
&lt;h1 style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt;TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;font size="5"&gt;II.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;font size="5"&gt;Discipline yes, condemnation no&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h1&gt;
&lt;h2 style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt 36pt;TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;A.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;State&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;
&lt;h3 style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt 72pt;TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;1.&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;Discipline of the Lord - Hebrews 12:5-14&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;
&lt;h4 style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt 108pt;TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;font size="5"&gt;a)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;font size="5"&gt;Background to Hebrews&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;h5 style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt 144pt;TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;font size="4"&gt;(1)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;font size="4"&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Christians to whom this letter was written were undergoing difficult times, hardships, and persecution.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Some were losing their faith in light of it.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h5&gt;
&lt;h5 style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt 144pt;TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;font size="4"&gt;(2)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;font size="4"&gt;&lt;em&gt;they were wondering if faith in Christ was worth all trouble and difficulties&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h5&gt;
&lt;h5 style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt 144pt;TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;font size="4"&gt;(3)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;font size="4"&gt;&lt;em&gt;they were surely wondering whether God was really good&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h5&gt;
&lt;h5 style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt 144pt;TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;font size="4"&gt;(4)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;font size="4"&gt;they were probably questioning whether God had not abandoned them or still loved them&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h5&gt;
&lt;h4 style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt 108pt;TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;font size="5"&gt;b)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;font size="5"&gt;Hardships, persecutions, difficulties&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;h5 style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt 144pt;TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;font size="4"&gt;(1)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;font size="4"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Seen as something good and right (seen as the discipline of the Lord)&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h5&gt;
&lt;h5 style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt 144pt;TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;font size="4"&gt;(2)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;font size="4"&gt;The positive side - what is the positive side of these hardships?&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h5&gt;
&lt;h6 style="TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;(a)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;The hardships and persecutions from sinful men are to be seen as the Lord&amp;#39;s discipline.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h6&gt;
&lt;h6 style="TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;(b)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;Does not ignore the need (for correction, growth, strengthening) like license does&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h6&gt;
&lt;h6 style="TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;(c)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;Does not involve senseless punishment or condemnation which harms people rather than hurts them.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h6&gt;
&lt;h6 style="TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;(d)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;They had forgotten that hardship is the sign of the Lord&amp;#39;s discipline.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;It &lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;was the mark of true sonship, true adoption into God&amp;#39;s family (Hebrews 12:5-6).&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;It means that they are legitimate sons.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h6&gt;
&lt;h6 style="TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;(e)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;It means that God loves them as true sons (Hebrews 12:6)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h6&gt;
&lt;h6 style="TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;(f)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;the hardship and discipline is for our good (Hebrews &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;12:10&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h6&gt;
&lt;h6 style="TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;(g)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;The results of this discipline are:&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h6&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;(i)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;something good (v.10)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;(ii)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;makes us more holy (v.10)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;(iii)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;righteousness (v.11)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;(iv)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;peace (v.11)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;(v)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;strength in the inner man in the face of hardships &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;(a)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;&lt;em&gt;these Christians were at a crossroads - they could lose faith or gain faith (become stronger).&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&amp;quot;You all, strengthen your feeble arms and weak knees&amp;quot;(v.12)&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;(b)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;&lt;em&gt;whatever happened it would have an impact on other Christians around them (v. 13 &amp;quot;so that the lame … would be healed&amp;quot;)&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;(c)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;character&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt; 
&lt;h4 style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt 108pt;TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;font size="5"&gt;c)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;font size="5"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;h3 style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt 72pt;TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;2.&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;Do not anger your children - Ephesians 6:1-4&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;
&lt;h2 style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt 36pt;TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;B.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Illustrate&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;
&lt;h2 style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt 36pt;TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;C.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Apply&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;
&lt;h3 style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt 72pt;TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;1.&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;What is the difference between this type of discipline in Hebrews 12:5-14 and punishment?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;
&lt;h3 style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt 72pt;TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;2.&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;If you caught your son lying which would be the best way to tell him - by saying:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;
&lt;h4 style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt 108pt;TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;font size="5"&gt;a)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;font size="5"&gt;&amp;quot;You are a liar!&amp;quot; or &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;h4 style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt 108pt;TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;font size="5"&gt;b)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;font size="5"&gt;&amp;quot;You just said something untrue&amp;quot;.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Why?&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;h3 style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt 72pt;TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;3.&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;How could true, Godly discipline be good for him?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;
&lt;h4 style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt 108pt;TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;font size="5"&gt;a)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;font size="5"&gt;Is this discipline in contradiction with Ephesians 6:4?&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;h5 style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt 144pt;TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;font size="4"&gt;(1)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;font size="4"&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:HE;"&gt;NIV &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT:normal;FONT-FAMILY:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:HE;"&gt;Ephesians 6:1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:HE;"&gt; Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. &lt;sup&gt;2&lt;/sup&gt; &amp;quot;Honor your father and mother&amp;quot;-- which is the first commandment with a promise-- &lt;sup&gt;3&lt;/sup&gt; &amp;quot;that it may go well with you and that you may enjoy long life on the earth.&amp;quot; &lt;sup&gt;4&lt;/sup&gt; &lt;u&gt;Fathers, do not exasperate your children&lt;/u&gt;; instead, bring them up in the &lt;u&gt;training&lt;/u&gt; and instruction of the Lord.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/h5&gt;
&lt;h6 style="TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;(a)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:HE;"&gt;exasperate = &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT:normal;FONT-FAMILY:Bwgrkl;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:HE;mso-bidi-font-family:Bwgrkl;"&gt;parorgiw/&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:HE;"&gt;; &lt;i&gt;provoke to anger, exasperate, make angry&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h6&gt;
&lt;h6 style="TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;(b)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:HE;"&gt;&amp;quot;training&amp;quot; = (Gk.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt; padeia) &amp;quot;training, instruction, discipline &amp;quot;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;which is the same word translated &amp;quot;discipline&amp;quot; (Gk. padeia) all throughout the passage in Hebrews 12:5-14&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h6&gt;
&lt;h5 style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt 144pt;TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;font size="4"&gt;(2)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;font size="4"&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:HE;"&gt;In parallel passage Colossians &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:HE;"&gt;3:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;21&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt; the word used is &amp;quot;embitter&amp;quot;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/h5&gt;
&lt;h6 style="TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;(a)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&amp;quot;Fathers do not embitter your children, or they will become discouraged&amp;quot; (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;Col.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt; 3:21)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h6&gt;
&lt;h6 style="TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;(b)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT:normal;FONT-FAMILY:Bwgrkl;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:HE;mso-bidi-font-family:Bwgrkl;"&gt;evreqi,zw &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:HE;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;1aor. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT:normal;FONT-FAMILY:Bwgrkl;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:HE;mso-bidi-font-family:Bwgrkl;"&gt;hvre,qisa&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:HE;"&gt;; &lt;i&gt;arouse, excite, kindle&lt;/i&gt;; in a bad sense &lt;i&gt;make resentful, irritate, rouse to anger &lt;/i&gt;(CO 3.21); in a good sense &lt;i&gt;incite, stimulate &lt;/i&gt;(2C 9.2)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h6&gt;
&lt;h5 style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt 144pt;TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;font size="4"&gt;(3)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;font size="4"&gt;The common denominator - don&amp;#39;t anger your children&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h5&gt;
&lt;h6 style="TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;(a)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;in these two passages in Colossians &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;3:21&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt; and Ephesians 6:4 is the idea of do not provoke your children to anger.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Anger is in both definitions of &amp;quot;embitter&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;exasperate&amp;quot;.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h6&gt;
&lt;h6 style="TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;(b)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;Earlier in Ephesians &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;4:27&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt; there was a warning about anger being a doorway for the devil to get into one&amp;#39;s life. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h6&gt;
&lt;h4 style="MARGIN:12pt 0cm 3pt 108pt;TEXT-INDENT:0cm;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-list:Ignore;"&gt;&lt;font size="5"&gt;b)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="FONT:7pt &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;"&gt;&lt;font size="5"&gt;What ways have you found to discipline a child without provoking them to anger? &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h4&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>